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kennywinker 43 minutes ago [-]
Does this not just mean they’re using LLMs to prep training data for the next LLM to be trained on? Because it sounds like that, reading between the lines of hype, i mean.
treebeard901 45 minutes ago [-]
It's not guaranteed that a next token prediction machine is capable of recursive self improvement. Or will be able to create AGI in any form.
StevenWaterman 44 minutes ago [-]
That's why it's news
kennywinker 42 minutes ago [-]
It’s also not guaranteed that owners are reliable narrators, when speaking about how great their business is doing. In other breaking news, worlds best cup of coffee found in truckstop diner!
seanhunter 1 hours ago [-]
Maybe they will recursively self-improve to the point where they are genuinely competitive with Anthropic and OpenAI, or where they “AI summaries” they add to search results aren’t total garbage most of the time.
avree 1 hours ago [-]
Does Sergey still work in the day to day at Google? I thought he mostly stepped back after that affair he had with the product marketing woman for the Google Glass project.
He's back, and working 60 hour weeks, since 2023, according to this report.
kennywinker 40 minutes ago [-]
I simply cannot imagine being a centibillionaire and working 10 hours a week, much less 60.
pllbnk 22 minutes ago [-]
"Working" is a generous word for his position. The "work" involves flying with private jet to expensive places regular people have never stepped foot in for noncommittal meanings, showing up around the office at random times, have a word with random high-level managers in the office. All the while not having the slightest thought about someone evaluating your performance or output.
chaostheory 1 hours ago [-]
If Argon was impressive, I would maybe believe it. Right now, argon is not even close to Opus 5.5 or even 6.1 Sol. It can’t even infer intent as well as Gemini 3.1 Pro. Google has yet to release a frontier class model imo
smashers1114 35 minutes ago [-]
I disagree somewhat. I think internally OpenAI, Anthropic and Google are probably all pretty close right now. Argon is competitive with Opus 5.5 and Astra. It might be third, but its competitive at least. Its becoming more apparent that different models are RL'd for different tasks.
Astra (or broadly openAI) are best for mathematics, 3D modeling, and vision.
Opus 5.5 is best at like visual design (or just in general adding more taste and feel)
Now, it can depend on your definition of frontier class model. But Argon is a strong model. Google is not running a distant third. If OpenAI and Anthropic shut down they would have the strongest model on the market in like 2 months imo. Google does suck at shipping (maybe due to an unusual amount of dogfooding models internally?)
And we know all the labs have stronger internal models than their public releases.
leecommamichael 2 hours ago [-]
ok
sicktriple 2 hours ago [-]
guy who sells AI says AI is cool
pbiggar 23 minutes ago [-]
Reminder Sergey Brin was in the Epstein files.
ares623 3 hours ago [-]
Oh I'm surprised to learn that their engineers and scientists had 0% usage of their tools before!
He's back, and working 60 hour weeks, since 2023, according to this report.
Astra (or broadly openAI) are best for mathematics, 3D modeling, and vision. Opus 5.5 is best at like visual design (or just in general adding more taste and feel)
Now, it can depend on your definition of frontier class model. But Argon is a strong model. Google is not running a distant third. If OpenAI and Anthropic shut down they would have the strongest model on the market in like 2 months imo. Google does suck at shipping (maybe due to an unusual amount of dogfooding models internally?)
And we know all the labs have stronger internal models than their public releases.