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GuestFAUniverse 1 days ago [-]
How are "constantly rearranging" instruments an essential?
Some designers don't get it.
Too much ego. Those are the one's who would have failed to finish a cathedral over several generations within the same style (re-read chapter 4 of "The Mythical Man-Month" to understand).
It's a distraction. And a pure driver's car avoids any distraction.
gambiting 1 days ago [-]
I see this in software too - designers have to constantly justify their own employment by redesigning things that work perfectly well and literally no one has ever complained about. But if you're on the payroll to design, you have to design.
hulitu 12 hours ago [-]
> How are "constantly rearranging" instruments an essential?
Kids those days. They _need_ to come with something "new". Fixing bugs is hard. They just "rearange" it. They took the idea from SW development. Everybody (Google, Mozilla, Microsoft, Gnome) is doing it so it must be good.
BoingBoomTschak 23 hours ago [-]
Well, they call it a pure "driver's car" but it's really too fussy to be that. A Miata or Elise/Exige would be what I'd put that label on.
mchusma 24 hours ago [-]
Porsche. “Aluminum key”
Tesla roadster. “Drives upside down, flies, does flips, 0-60 in 0.81s”
origini 22 hours ago [-]
Porsche. "You can buy me as promised in a timeframe i told you"
Tesla roadster. "Hold my key, i might actually get delivered in 2-5 years after waiting for 10"
22 hours ago [-]
kleiba2 23 hours ago [-]
"Noticeably different from the very first moment: the aluminium key offers a glimpse of what is to come. Even before the engine starts, a connection to the car is formed, transforming anticipation into something tangible."
I would fire the marketing team.
nielsbot 23 hours ago [-]
Is this a Jony Ive collab? Sure seems there are a lot of similarities to the Ferrari Luce.
dzhiurgis 20 hours ago [-]
Interesting. It kinda does have a tiny bit of semblance inside, but not as nearly refined.
Thing is Ive didn't design exterior tho, but getting all the flak for it. Meanwhile interior of Luce is first Ferrari that doesn't look like a joke.
vrganj 22 hours ago [-]
Advertising the fact that the key is from some other metal is... weird.
Who gives a fuck? Never have i used a key and thought "wow, I wish the metal was different, that would noticeably change my experience".
Smoosh 19 hours ago [-]
People are still using metal keys to open and start cars?
beklein 22 hours ago [-]
I see a lot of Claudeisms/AI slop in the copy text on that page. Really disappointed from that page, agreed, fire the marketing team.
rrr_oh_man 22 hours ago [-]
Yup.
eps 22 hours ago [-]
Different target audience.
I'd rather have an aluminum key.
beAbU 17 hours ago [-]
Aren't we still waiting for the previous tesla roadster to be released?
Markoff 22 hours ago [-]
one of them is real product, the other just some promo skeleton made for promo, which they dont actually properly show
vrganj 22 hours ago [-]
The Aluminium key is a bit silly.
But I'd much rather have a premium car from a manufacturer with premium car standards. Have you seen the panel gaps on Teslas? They're like fancy Ladas!
Zero info about the engine on the page - or is it electric? The page doesn't really say.
For a sports car, that sort of info is kinda important?
vostrocity 23 hours ago [-]
In a video, a Porsche official said they haven't decided on the engine yet.
PedroBatista 21 hours ago [-]
It’s mostly a marketing exercise and Germans are notoriously bad from an Anglo perspective.
From the opposite side Tesla’s presentation was way “yee-ahh” and tacky from the perspective of other publics
nielsbot 23 hours ago [-]
The marketing page says it's mid-engined. Maybe it's one of these newer hybrids not designed for range for but performance boost especially a low RPMs where the gas engine last immediate torque.
svelle 23 hours ago [-]
The car has four exhausts so I'd assume it's not electric.
superze 23 hours ago [-]
Germany doubling down on combustion after doubling down several times. Don't worry guys all is good. Those guys have lost any touch to reality. Nothing will snap them back.
nielsbot 23 hours ago [-]
I think a few things.. (but I am not a policy expert)
1. Governments pulling back on EV transition leading to car companies pulling back from EVs as well. For example, some companies that had previously said "we've designed out last gas engine" now are designing new ones.
2. Turns out gas + EV can be even better than pure electric for a sports car (so I gather)
3. People who drives cars like this DGAF about emissions
BoingBoomTschak 23 hours ago [-]
Electric car, decent autonomy and light weight: choose two; at least for now.
arprocter 17 hours ago [-]
Although Porsche have already branded electric cars 'Turbo', the bar meter implies forced induction
Apparently maximum boost on a GT2 is around 1.5 bar, so hitting close to 5 seems...ambitious
pllbnk 23 hours ago [-]
Perhaps they are there for the 'Rocket' edition.
verdran 22 hours ago [-]
Landing page design is really bad. For a bit, I was not sure if I had landed on a generic WordPress blog.
nullpoint420 22 hours ago [-]
Wow, you're not kidding. This really feels like a hobby site from the early 2010s
f6v 22 hours ago [-]
It's a web site for a car. It has pictures of the said car. What's up with it, I don't get it.
What is the point of revealing a car, but then giving zero technical specs?
polyterative 23 hours ago [-]
Looks nice but the presentation of the website is terrible.Looks like they are try-harding.Not happy with the copy at all.But the lines of of the car are nice to see.Please Porsche keep it together.
eps 22 hours ago [-]
> Looks nice but the presentation of the website is terrible.Looks like ... all.But the ... see.Please ... together.
Please add spaces after periods. The presentation is terrible.
kaizenb 22 hours ago [-]
"Focus on what matters." :/ I guess they replaced their copywriter with AI.
smoovb 1 days ago [-]
Is this poor timing or coat tail riding?
amelius 22 hours ago [-]
At this point I'd save the money for a stick of DRAM you might need.
develoopest 22 hours ago [-]
The car is beautiful except for that visible fan, it gives AC unit vibes.
zelosleone 22 hours ago [-]
How did they even manage this timing seriously.
ginko 22 hours ago [-]
So is this an EV or an ICE car? The rev counter makes me think ICE?
zero-g 21 hours ago [-]
Wondering as well. Neither the website, nor the youtube video [0] make it clear. It does have 4 exhaust pipes, however.
So does the Roadster :) they even both have center fans.
id00 8 hours ago [-]
It's ICE, they talk about mid engine configuration
rrr_oh_man 22 hours ago [-]
LLMsplaining in every second paragraph…
kaizenb 22 hours ago [-]
ohh come on man you should "focus on what matters" (:
rasz 22 hours ago [-]
>what does the sports car of tomorrow really need?
1000HP of EV power, definitely not a V8
id00 8 hours ago [-]
Just having more HP doesn't translate to a better car on a race track. There is much more to the performance just pure power-to-weight distribution. There is a reason to enjoy a humble Mazda MX-5 over Tesla 3 performance
ezst 22 hours ago [-]
Why not both? What makes EVs meaningful is when you get to the point of pushing green electricity to the grid and have the bulk of the utilitarian traffic consume it. Electrifying supercars for the sake of it has no measurable impact in the grand scheme of things.
Xenoamorphous 22 hours ago [-]
Most car enthusiasts are against EV sport cars.
xethos 21 hours ago [-]
Peak performance alone will not imbue something with a soul, and adding (or adding additional) computers frequently seems to overlap with something becoming more soulless.
An SSD is faster, but a hard drive ticking away is a language its own, and an amorphous white-by-default Tesla Plaid may be one of the fastest cars on any road, but odds are the only feeling it evokes is "This is faster than any reasonable person needs, and likely more than is safe for any standard American motorist to be able to just go out and buy"
Some designers don't get it. Too much ego. Those are the one's who would have failed to finish a cathedral over several generations within the same style (re-read chapter 4 of "The Mythical Man-Month" to understand).
It's a distraction. And a pure driver's car avoids any distraction.
Kids those days. They _need_ to come with something "new". Fixing bugs is hard. They just "rearange" it. They took the idea from SW development. Everybody (Google, Mozilla, Microsoft, Gnome) is doing it so it must be good.
Tesla roadster. “Drives upside down, flies, does flips, 0-60 in 0.81s”
Tesla roadster. "Hold my key, i might actually get delivered in 2-5 years after waiting for 10"
I would fire the marketing team.
Thing is Ive didn't design exterior tho, but getting all the flak for it. Meanwhile interior of Luce is first Ferrari that doesn't look like a joke.
Who gives a fuck? Never have i used a key and thought "wow, I wish the metal was different, that would noticeably change my experience".
I'd rather have an aluminum key.
But I'd much rather have a premium car from a manufacturer with premium car standards. Have you seen the panel gaps on Teslas? They're like fancy Ladas!
Lightly related, here’s the design patent for the original Targa design:
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/75/54/b6/382d342...
Zero info about the engine on the page - or is it electric? The page doesn't really say.
For a sports car, that sort of info is kinda important?
From the opposite side Tesla’s presentation was way “yee-ahh” and tacky from the perspective of other publics
1. Governments pulling back on EV transition leading to car companies pulling back from EVs as well. For example, some companies that had previously said "we've designed out last gas engine" now are designing new ones.
2. Turns out gas + EV can be even better than pure electric for a sports car (so I gather)
3. People who drives cars like this DGAF about emissions
Apparently maximum boost on a GT2 is around 1.5 bar, so hitting close to 5 seems...ambitious
Poor timing.
Please add spaces after periods. The presentation is terrible.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axeNSZBf8sE
1000HP of EV power, definitely not a V8
An SSD is faster, but a hard drive ticking away is a language its own, and an amorphous white-by-default Tesla Plaid may be one of the fastest cars on any road, but odds are the only feeling it evokes is "This is faster than any reasonable person needs, and likely more than is safe for any standard American motorist to be able to just go out and buy"
That's why they suck